My guest today is a very good pal of mine Felicity Odgers. Flick was a primary school teacher and is now a qualified play therapist with a masters from Deakin University. Flick and I team taught many years ago in a remote community in the Kimberlys, working with a very special group of first nations children. What I learnt from Flick and her approach to working with little people has been invaluable not only in my career as an educator but especially as a parent. We talk today about the power of play and of rest, about co-regulation, about how to build trust and safety with our kids and so much more. If you are a parent especially I think you’ll get so much out of this conversation but also so much of what we discuss can also be applied to us as humans in general.

For more about play therapy you can head to the Play Therapy Hub

Additional resources:

The Invisible String (a book for children about grief)

Dr Becky Good Inside (lovely parenting advice & child appropriate language to use)

Play Matters with Dr Kathy Walker

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Show credits:

Editing – RAW Collings and Claire Tonti

Theme music – Avocado Junkie